London Daily

Focus on the big picture.
Saturday, Jun 27, 2026

Rishi Sunak says scientists should never have been 'empowered' during pandemic

Rishi Sunak says scientists should never have been 'empowered' during pandemic

Rishi Sunak faced major backlash today after suggesting independent scientists were given too much power during the pandemic.

In an article in the Spectator, the Conservative MP claimed his concerns over the economic risks of lockdowns were not listened to.

The former chancellor, who faced criticism himself over several decisions made during the pandemic, also said that the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) edited minutes to obscure dissenting opinions.

Mr Sunak was quoted in the Spectator interview as saying ‘we shouldn’t have empowered the scientists in the way we did’.

He added he had been left ‘furious’ during a meeting where others allegedly refused to acknowledge the wider impact lockdown was having.

‘We didn’t talk at all about missed (doctors’) appointments, or the backlog building in the NHS in a massive way. That was never part of it,’ the Tory hopeful said.

The meetings were ‘literally me around that table, just fighting’, which ‘was incredibly uncomfortable every single time’.

Mr Sunak claimed lockdown ‘trade-offs’ weren’t discussed


He said different decisions could have been reached on keeping schools open and the lockdown could have been shorter.

‘We shouldn’t have empowered the scientists in the way we did,’ Mr Sunak said.

‘And you have to acknowledge trade-offs from the beginning. If we’d done all of that, we could be in a very different place.’

His comments have since been criticised by medical professionals.

Sage member Professor Graham Medley said it was the Government that made the decisions during the pandemic, not the scientists.

Mr Sunak claims he was banned from discussing the negative side-effects of lockdown (


But Prof Medley said: ‘Government have the power, so if one member of cabinet thinks that scientific advice was too ’empowered’ then it is a criticism of their colleagues rather than the scientists.

‘The Sage meetings were about the science, not the policy options, and the minutes reflect the scientific consensus at the time.

‘The disagreement comes out in the uncertainty. There is a balance between the consensus and the uncertainty – for example, we can either all agree that closing schools will reduce transmission with absolute certainty, or that closing schools will have a relatively small effect with lots of uncertainty.’


Rishi Sunak's own Covid scandals:


The Tory hopeful faced his own share of backlash following decisions made during the pandemic.

*  Rishi Sunak was forced to defend his Eat Out to Help Out scheme which offered 50% off food and drink on certain days in August 2020. He was criticised in September that year as coronavirus cases began to rise again in the UK.

*  The following year, people claimed they had been ‘thrown to the wolves’ by the then-Chancellor’s economic support during the third lockdown. Musicians, freelancers and the self-employed were among those who saw no benefit from attempts made to fend off a tsunami of job losses.

*  Fast forward to this year, when a damning report in February found that at least £15,000,000,000 was lost to Covid fraud and government mistakes. At least £15billion was handed to fraudsters or paid out in error, including through the the Eat Out to Help Out scheme, after No.10 ‘relaxed’ normal public spending rules at the start of the pandemic.

*  Then in April, Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak were fined for attending parties in Downing Street during lockdown. The Met’s investigation into alleged breaches of Covid regulations found the country’s two most senior politicians broke the very laws they set at the height of the pandemic.

Prof Ian Boyd, who was also on Sage, said the panel gave advice ‘based on the information available at the time’.

‘Especially in the early stages of the pandemic an immense amount was not known, and this meant that risks were high, and therefore precaution was called for.

‘Sage did not make decisions, it tried to reflect its uncertainties in its advice and it worked by consensus.

‘Members were acutely aware of the trade-offs associated with implementing specific actions. To the extent that it was possible with the information available at the time, these trade-offs were included within the uncertainty expressed in the advice.’

The former chancellor has been slammed in response to his own decisions – such as the Eat Out to Help Out scheme which led to a wave of infections


Others such as Boris Johnson’s former communications chief, Lee Cain, and Dominic Cummings, former senior advisor, have come out to slam the ‘dangerous rubbish’ in the interview.

Following this morning’s backlash, Mr Sunak has since claimed he did not suggest a lockdown could have been avoided during the Covid-19 pandemic.

The former chancellor was asked to clarify whether, in the recent interview with The Spectator, he suggested the Government should have not locked down the country.

Mr Sunak told the BBC Radio 4’s World At One programme: ‘No, that’s not the point I was making. The point I was making was that looking back on it, it is right that we learned the lessons from it.

‘Obviously at the time, everyone was doing the best job they could in incredibly difficult circumstances, dealing with something that we’d never faced before.

The Tory hopeful has since said lessons were ‘learned’ during the decision process


‘There’s no point in trying to second guess those decisions, but it’s right that we learned the lessons from it.

‘And looking back, one of my reflections was that, you know, when things like that happen, I think we need to have all the facts and involve the trade-offs involved in those decisions very openly and honestly.’

A No 10 spokesman said today: ‘Throughout the pandemic, public health, education and the economy were central to the difficult decisions made on Covid restrictions to protect the British public from an unprecedented novel virus.

‘At every point, ministers made collective decisions which considered a wide range of expert advice available at the time in order to protect public health.’

Rishi Sunak’s office has been contacted by Metro.co.uk for additional comment.

Comments

Oh ya 4 year ago
And it begins. Throw whomever under the bus to save your own hide now that the truth about the clot shots is coming out. Even Brix said the other day that they knew the shots would not protect you Dr F announcement of retirement so he can hide on some far away place for the millions of people he killed. . And for those that took and still taking the shot it was a IQ test and you failed, you had as much time as those that studied this and knew there was something wrong thus deciding to stay true bloods. Finish up you bucket list

Newsletter

Related Articles

0:00
0:00
Close
London Ambulance Service Sees Record Emergency Demand as Heatwave Intensifies
British Chambers of Commerce Warns of Prolonged Weak Investment Climate Through 2027
Bank of England Holds Interest Rates as Inflation Risks Persist
UK Construction Sector Faces One Percent Contraction Amid Cost and Investment Pressures
Former DUP Leader Sir Jeffrey Donaldson Convicted of Sexual Offences
Church of England Appoints Dr Linsay Cunningham to Lead Faith and Public Life Division
UK Armed Forces Day Marked Nationwide With Events From Aberdeen to the Scilly Isles
Rising Tensions in Edinburgh Prompt Joint Warning From Scottish Local Government Leaders
UK Construction Sector Forecast to Contract One Percent in 2026 on Cost Pressures
UK Parliament Backs 87 Percent Emissions Cut as Government Deepens Electrification Drive
British Chambers of Commerce Forecast Weak UK Growth as Investment and Demand Slow
Bank of England Holds Interest Rates at 3.75 Percent Amid Energy and Inflation Uncertainty
London Ambulance Service Reports Record Surge in Life-Threatening Emergency Calls During Heatwave
UK Parliament Approves Legally Binding 87 Percent Emissions Cut Target by 2040
United Kingdom Records Third Consecutive Day of Record June Heat as Europe Faces Worsening Heatwave
Robert Jenrick Defends £5 Million Donation to Nigel Farage Amid Political Scrutiny
Plymouth Museum The Box Wins 2026 Art Fund Museum of the Year Award
UK Government Faces Backlash Over Plans to Use Former Military Sites for Asylum Accommodation
Labour Party Faces Pressure Over Cabinet Stability as Senior Figures Clash on Policy Direction
Heathrow Airport Forecasts Passenger Decline in 2026 as Costs and Climate Disruption Mount
UK Energy Regulator Approves Expansion of Long-Duration Storage to Boost Power System Resilience
Crown Estate Reports Third Consecutive Year of £1 Billion Profit as Debate Over Royal Finances Intensifies
Teenager Charged With Murder in Wales Following Death of 14-Year-Old Boy
Nottingham University Hospitals Maternity Failures Trigger Calls for Public Inquiry Into Patient Safety
EasyJet Rejects £4.9 Billion Takeover Offer From Castlelake but Keeps Door Open for Further Talks
Record Heatwave Triggers UK Transport and Infrastructure Strain as Heathrow Revises Passenger Forecast Downward
Ofgem Approves Sixteen Long-Duration Energy Storage Projects to Strengthen UK Grid Stability
Labour Government Faces Internal Tensions Over Cabinet Decisions and Net Zero Policy Direction
British Food and Drink Exports Fall to Decade Low Amid Trade Friction and US Tariffs
Great Britain Grid Operator Spends £10 Million to Stabilize Electricity Supply During Heatwave Demand Surge
UK Parliament Committee Calls for Urgent National Adaptation Strategy as Extreme Heat Strains Public Infrastructure
Record-Breaking Heatwave Pushes England’s National Health Service to Critical Incident Status as Hospitals Struggle With Surge in Emergencies
UK Government Launches Review of Voluntary National Insurance Contributions System
UK Planning Inspectorate Reports Key Infrastructure and Planning Milestones in Annual Review
UK Government Reviews Travel Expense Reimbursement Rates for Employers and Employees
Civil Nuclear Constabulary Launches National Digital Memorial for Officers Killed in Service
UK and US Expand Collaboration on Nuclear Fusion Research and Workforce Exchange
Environment Agency Secures £275,000 Enforcement Deal with Anglian Water Over Permit Breaches
Independent Inspector Flags Ongoing Failures in UK Home Office Border Case Management
UK Government Considers Zero VAT Rate on Land for Social Housing Development
Bank of England Reports Sharp Drop in Emissions and Warns on Climate-Driven Financial Risk
Consumer Confidence in the UK Falls at Fastest Quarterly Rate Since 2022
UK Borrowing Costs Rise Sharply on Gilt Markets Amid Fiscal and Political Concerns
UK Government Plans Legislation to Bring British Steel into Public Ownership
UK Government Secures £210 Million Nuclear Fuel Deal to Support Ukraine Energy Security
London Ambulance Service Reports Record Emergency Call Volume Amid Severe Heatwave
United Kingdom Faces Record June Heatwave as Temperatures Hit 36.7°C in Somerset
UK Financial Services Reform Debate Intensifies Over Ministerial Regulatory Powers
UK Energy Price Cap Rise Expected to Keep Inflation Above Target Through 2026
UK Biohacking and AI Wellness Trends Drive Surge in Personal Health Monitoring
×