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Tuesday, Dec 01, 2020

The idiots leading the church of England sticking by LGBT sex guidance

The Church of England will not be withdrawing guidance that said sex is only for "heterosexual married couples". The results is not that the reality will change, but more likely that more and more people around the world will stop believing in all this church bullshit, and will start questioning more about the pedophile epidemic inside the church as well as the money laundering culture.

God never said that gay marriage is not allowed. The crooks that pretending to talk on his behalf stuck in their primitive and double-standard world. The modern citizens of the world should simply throw them out to the garbage bin of the history, as the world is not flat, despite what the idiotic church said, the earth revolves around the sun, despite what their idiocy God said, and sex as well as marriage is an absolutely personal issue that God and his pedophiles opinion should never step in. What people do in their personal life is not Gods business. Man invented a God and not the opposite, let’s stop this common believing in this bullshit thing.

The archbishops of Canterbury and York are "very sorry and recognise the division and hurt" last week's statement caused.

Justin Welby and John Sentamu say the statement "jeopardised trust".

It came ahead of a study by the Church into human sexuality, due to be published later this year.

Jade Irwin, an LGBT Christian, felt "really disheartened and deflated" when the guidance was issued by the Church of England last week.

It said sex in gay or straight civil partnerships "falls short of God's purpose for human beings". The statement came after the law changed to allow straight couples to have a civil ceremony.

It added that Christians can only have sex if they're married, which it called the "life-long union between a man and a woman".

Jade, who's from LGBT charity Diverse Church, says the apology is a "positive step" - but admits she'd hoped for more.

"I want to know what this means for us - otherwise the apology could just be empty words."

The Church has been divided over how to deal with LGBT issues for decades and is in the middle of a large study of human sexuality, Living in Love and Faith, which is due to be published later this year.

When Jade heard about the guidance last week, she was worried it could lead some LGBT Christians to lie in order to be accepted.

"That can create all sorts of guilt, shame and mental health problems, as we know all too well."

The guidance would mean that heterosexual couples who haven't taken any vows and are having sex are also going against the Church.

The Church of England doesn't permit same-sex marriage but it allows clergy to be in same-sex civil partnerships - if they are sexually abstinent.

Some people have criticised the guidance for being out of touch, but others have defended it saying the guidance isn't new or surprising.

'They assume I'm following the 'correct' way'

"Nobody questions me because I'm straight," says Sophie, who's on the General Synod - a group which meets regularly to discuss the running of the Church of England.

"People that are gay get questioned all the time - 'If you're gay then you must be sinning' - but people don't generally ask me that because they assume that I'm following the 'correct' way."

She was upset by the Church's initial statement but is keen to point out that the Church of England didn't say anything new.

"It still sits that marriage should be between a man and a woman and the only thing that's new is that this is about civil partnerships," she says.

Sophie believes the statement is "too blunt" and neglects the work that's really going on towards liberating homosexuality in the Church.

"I'm not under any threat in the Church whereas people that are in same-sex relationships are being really alienated here."

Ultimately though, Sophie says the rules are often different to what's happening in churches all over the UK.

"There's the doctrine, which is what is said we should be doing, but no-one is going round strictly enforcing that doctrine in day-to-day life," she explains.

"It's not like if I came out and said I was having sex with someone I'd be banished from the church."

'The church needs to be fairer to LGBT couples'

Jem is 27 and married to a woman. She's been to church all of her life - but says ultimately it's her faith in God that's important, and not the institution.

"The church is sticking with the same line. And that isn't necessarily the healthiest advice we're putting out there.

"It just sucks a bit because I believe that I married and that sex is part of marriage. I think the Church needs to find a way to be able to be fairer to LGBT couples - the opposite can push LGBT people into some really unsafe practices."


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